"Overnight sensations" ???

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"Overnight sensations" ???

The use of the phrase "became overnight sensations" in the article, as applied to the subjects of the article, is appropriate for tabloid journalism, but not for Wikipedia.

And if, in addition, this article continues to leave out any temporal reference, indicating when the subjects of this article became involved with Hugh Hefner, maybe this article is best omitted from Wikipedia.

Come to think of it, a person's sexual involvement with Hugh Hefner does not seem a sufficient reason to include an article about them in Wikipedia.

This article should probably be deleted. After all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a gossip sheet.Daqu (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I removed the 'overnight sensations' part. If you had such an issue with it, I'm not sure why you didn't remove it yourself. As for their notability, being Hef's girlfriends, they are/will be the focus of quite a bit of media attention. If you'd like to put it up for AFD though, be bold. Dismas|^(talk) 04:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The fact that individuals get "a bit of media attention" may be a good reason to include an article about them in National Enquirer. But it falls far short of justifying why there should be any mention of these individuals in an encyclopedia.

(And my understanding is that one is supposed to discuss on the Talk page any proposed dramatic changes like removing an article before unilaterally taking such action.)Daqu (talk) 08:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You could nominate it for WP:AFD but with all the press coverage that these two have received, they do pass WP:BIO. Dismas|^(talk) 14:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

That's not the criterion for whether a topic belongs in an encyclopedia.Daqu (talk) 00:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, if you don't like the article being here, nominate it for WP:AFD. It's pointless to debate it if you're just going to sit here and say it doesn't belong without actually doing anything that is within your rights to do. Dismas|^(talk) 01:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

It may indeed be pointless to debate this with you, but the talk page is precisely for discussing proposed changes before they happen, ideally to arrive at a consensus first.Daqu (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The talk page is a good place to hash things out, I agree. But there seem to be two issues that you have/had with this article. 1) The phrasing of "overnight sensations" which is a minor change and not really talk page worthy, in my opinion. It's a minor wording issue. And 2) whether this page even belongs here on WP. I think that you've reached a conclusion. I think it should stay, and you have your opinion. Since we're the only two who seem to be following this discussion, it seems as though you'd have to open the article up to AFD to find out if the community feels it should stay. Dismas|^(talk) 22:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Measurements

How can both people have the exact same measurements, height and weight? --Mikecraig (talk) 04:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, they are identical twins so it wouldn't be unheard of for them to be quite close in weight. As far as their measurements and height, I would think that would be determined by their DNA which for identical twins is, as far as I understand it, nearly identical. There may be fractional differences in the measurements but nothing noteworthy. Dismas|^(talk) 05:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)